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42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> lehrer: but, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get the job done, it's got to be balanced. >> if we're serious we have to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified area where's we can right away make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, they don't get. now, does anybody think that exxonmobil needs some extra money when they're making money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? why wouldn't we eliminate tax breaks for corporate jets? my attitude is, if you've got a corporate jet, you can probably
42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> lehrer: but, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get the job done, it's got to be balanced. >> if we're serious we have to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've...
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everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us serving you, around the country, around the corner. us bank. ♪ >> welcome back. we are taking a look at your top commodity movers. looking at rbob gasoline. reversing yesterday the big losses. crude almost completely erasing yesterdays losses. rbob up. crude oil prices also a big gainer. back above $90 a barrel. crude prices in the range of 91-$92 a barrel. gold also shining. about three quarters of a percent. we got some comments from mario draghi. they are going to do something, another bond buying program of some sort. that eased concerns over in europe. also, by the way, we had a weaker u.s. dollar, stronger euro scenario on that. it was a big winning day for commodities. yesterday was a big loser. we opted a lot of yesterday's big losses on the day. gold certainly shining. hovering around 1800 out. now we will go out to jeff flock. he is on the far. jeff. >> we b
everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us serving you, around the country, around the corner. us bank. ♪ >> welcome back. we are taking a look at your top commodity movers. looking at rbob gasoline. reversing yesterday the big losses. crude almost completely erasing yesterdays losses. rbob up. crude oil prices also a big gainer. back...
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don't tell me the economy is growing slower than when the president took office. that's not true. >> in the last year and the year before. the last three years is what i'm referring to. >> the last three years we've had growth. i agree the growth hasn't been strong enough. >> right. diana, do you think we could see a 75% tax rate here if, in fact, the president gets re-elected? would what's happening in france carry over here? is it the same ideology? >> no, because congress has to pass the tax rates over here. we have a congress. congress might let the rates go up to -- right now they're planning on letting them drop to 45%. when you add in state and local and some -- >> 39.6. what's five here or there. >> it's not 39.6. you have to add the medicare tax, the phase out of the personal exemption and standard deduction. that works out to around 44%. excuse me. >> okay, dpofolks. >> we're not going to get up to 75%. >> on that i agree. >> plus, our corporate tax rate is ten percentage points above that of our international competitors n competitors. that needs to be
don't tell me the economy is growing slower than when the president took office. that's not true. >> in the last year and the year before. the last three years is what i'm referring to. >> the last three years we've had growth. i agree the growth hasn't been strong enough. >> right. diana, do you think we could see a 75% tax rate here if, in fact, the president gets re-elected? would what's happening in france carry over here? is it the same ideology? >> no, because...
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are they really talking about the economy it's not the economy stupid as they once said it's war and that's all they're talking about and that's an interesting point in terms of the economy what we've heard this conversation turned into is taxes the candidates focused on their tax policies but none no amount of taxing is going to get the country out of its fiscal problems in terms of the debt that it faces i'm curious what you think we'll see in the next four years in terms of the consequences of what you essentially call it papering over what should have been a collapse after the panic of zero eight with fed policy and with stimulus and bailouts. well you're seeing it already with bernanke eased record low interest rates and saying that they're not going to go up they are doing is they are flooding the economy with what cheap money and devaluing the dollar you know that i guess walking about gold sack how along now and what's gold you know it's it's seventeen seventy seven as we speak and here's our forecast by the way if gold closes out this week it over seventeen hundred and eight
are they really talking about the economy it's not the economy stupid as they once said it's war and that's all they're talking about and that's an interesting point in terms of the economy what we've heard this conversation turned into is taxes the candidates focused on their tax policies but none no amount of taxing is going to get the country out of its fiscal problems in terms of the debt that it faces i'm curious what you think we'll see in the next four years in terms of the consequences...
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i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> let's talk about taxes, because i think it's instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on this stage, i said that i would cut taxes for middle class families, and that's exactly what i did. we cut taxes for middle class families by about $3,600, and the reason is because i believe that we do best when the middle class is doing well. >> that was just a couple of highlights from last night's presidential debate. we're going to go more than just play soundbytes. we're going to replay the entire debate next hour of cnn newsroom, so you can judge for yourself just how the candidates performed. which candidate would do a better job of growing a sluggish economy? voters, they're looking for answers. last night's debate, did they actually even get them? we're going to bring in our cnn chief business correspondent alshi velshi. an incredible debate. ali, i want to start off with you first. >> yeah. >> one of the things that mitt romney was very consistent on, the mes
i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> let's talk about taxes, because i think it's instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on this stage, i said that i would cut taxes for middle class families, and that's exactly what i did. we cut taxes for middle class families by about $3,600, and the reason is because i believe that we do best when the middle class is doing well. >> that was just a couple of highlights from last night's presidential debate. we're going to...
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they'll drive the economy the wrong way. and when it came to closing loopholes, the only loophole he was willing to talk about, i wish he had talked about closing the kerry loophole. that would have been an interesting one. that's a big inexcusable one. but instead he said he'd get rid of big bird. as we all know, that's not going to do it. he's just not honest on either the tax side or the revenue side. but, look. i used to work at boston consulting group, too. mitt is a great presenter, and he made a good presentation last night. >> and i assume you have thoughts on -- and i don't want to get too much into the style because that is all anyone's talking about today. but you must have some explanation for why the president appeared the way he did and why he chose to leave out some bullet points that he could have pulled out of his pocket. >> sure, look. i think the president focused on the facts and focused on his accomplishments and his plans for the future. and he was very factual in what he did. and as many people have sa
they'll drive the economy the wrong way. and when it came to closing loopholes, the only loophole he was willing to talk about, i wish he had talked about closing the kerry loophole. that would have been an interesting one. that's a big inexcusable one. but instead he said he'd get rid of big bird. as we all know, that's not going to do it. he's just not honest on either the tax side or the revenue side. but, look. i used to work at boston consulting group, too. mitt is a great presenter, and...
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presidential election debate between president obama and mitt romney focused on the economy. americans are about $1 trillion in student loans -- owe $1 trillion. despite the huge investment in their education, almost half of recent university graduates are either unemployed or underemployed and many worry about the future. which candidate will they support? our correspondent has this report from philadelphia. >> mack has just qualified as a lawyer, so now taken put his lawbooks away and turn his attention to is $170,000 student debt. >> the whole gravity of it really did not hit me until about a few months ago when all of a sudden it was like, that's not just a number, that is actually a representative of something. so the joke has always been, well, i bought a house. but really it is a little bit more than that. unable to find a job, he's moving to texas to live with his parents and is not thrilled about it. >> i am 27 years old. even though it is rather typical of people, it is still not culturally normative. >> americans of $1 trillion in student loans and they are struggl
presidential election debate between president obama and mitt romney focused on the economy. americans are about $1 trillion in student loans -- owe $1 trillion. despite the huge investment in their education, almost half of recent university graduates are either unemployed or underemployed and many worry about the future. which candidate will they support? our correspondent has this report from philadelphia. >> mack has just qualified as a lawyer, so now taken put his lawbooks away and...
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high income people are doing just fine in this economy. they'll do fine whether you're president or i am. the people having the hard time are middle income americans. under the president's policy, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the definite it or burdeneni ing the middle class. it's hamath. >> another hot topic, the deficit. >> it's now four years later, we still have trillion dollar defici deficits. >> $2.50 for every cut, we ask for a dollar of additional revenue paid for as i indicated earlier by asking those of us who have done very well in this country to contribute a little bit more to reduce the deficit. >> there were also some notable exchange
high income people are doing just fine in this economy. they'll do fine whether you're president or i am. the people having the hard time are middle income americans. under the president's policy, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. and the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then...
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economy. waiting on spain, the ecb expected to hold steady on rates. country's president tells cnbc that europe's policymakers must remain focused. >> if we get bogged down into what was meant by the june agreements and waste time on this kind of discussions, then it's much less likely that a coherent system will emerge. >> madrid continues to put faith in the hands of private investors while finance minister heads to london to raise funds for the country's bad bank. and india's crucial services sector grows at its fastest rate in seven months, while the government gets set to take another swing at boosting it through foreign investments. thanks very much for joining me. anyone that's missing ross, he'll be back in tomorrow. but for now, you're all mine. . plenty to come on the next couple hours of the show. lots of guests to help us figure out what's going on. we'll get a view from sydney about cautious shoppers. borrowing costs are expected to fall. we'll bring you those results from madrid.
economy. waiting on spain, the ecb expected to hold steady on rates. country's president tells cnbc that europe's policymakers must remain focused. >> if we get bogged down into what was meant by the june agreements and waste time on this kind of discussions, then it's much less likely that a coherent system will emerge. >> madrid continues to put faith in the hands of private investors while finance minister heads to london to raise funds for the country's bad bank. and india's...
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every free economy has good regulations. at the same time, regulation could become excessive. >> is it excessive now? >> in some places, yes. in some places, no, it can become out of date. in some legislation passed during the president's term, have you seen regulation become excessive and it's hurt the economy. let me give you an example. dodd-frank was passed and it includes within it a number of provisions that, i think, has some unintenned itted consequences that are harmful to the economy. one is banks are too big to fail. that is the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. 122 community and small banks have closed since dodd-frank. there is one example. here's another. >> you want to repeal dodd-frank? >> repeal and replace it. we're not getting rid of all regulation. you have to have regulation. there are some parts of dodd-frank that make all the sense in the world. you need transparency, you need to have leverage limits for institutions. >> here is the specific -- >> excuse me. >> let's talk about the big o
every free economy has good regulations. at the same time, regulation could become excessive. >> is it excessive now? >> in some places, yes. in some places, no, it can become out of date. in some legislation passed during the president's term, have you seen regulation become excessive and it's hurt the economy. let me give you an example. dodd-frank was passed and it includes within it a number of provisions that, i think, has some unintenned itted consequences that are harmful to...
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the economy right now? is there too much? mr. president, should there be more? this is a two-minute segment to start. >> regulation is essential. you cannot have a free market work if you do not have regulation. i need to know the regulations. you cannot have people opening of things in their garage and making loans. you have to have regulations for an economy to work. regulation can become excessive. >> is it excessive now? where? >> in some places, with some of the legislation passed during the president's term, it has become excessive. it has hurt the economy. for example, dodd-frank designates banks too big to fail. this is an enormous boom for new york banks. there have been 122 community and small banks have close since dodd-frank. >> you want to repeal dodd- frank? >> i would repel and replace it. there are some parts that make all of the sense in the world. in a transparency, the average leverage limits. >> let's let him respond to this specific one -- dodd-frank. >> the reason we have been in such
the economy right now? is there too much? mr. president, should there be more? this is a two-minute segment to start. >> regulation is essential. you cannot have a free market work if you do not have regulation. i need to know the regulations. you cannot have people opening of things in their garage and making loans. you have to have regulations for an economy to work. regulation can become excessive. >> is it excessive now? where? >> in some places, with some of the...
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the economy is still slow. as a matter of fact, it's growing more slowly now than when you made that statement. if you believe the same thing, you don't want to raise taxes on people. the reality is, it is not just donald trump you are taxing. it is all those businesses that employ one-quarter of the work fwherz america. these small businesses that are taxed as individuals. you raise taxes and you kill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent businesses said your plan will ket kill 700,000 jobs. i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> jim: let's let him answer the tacks thing for a moment. >> okay. >> well, we have had -- >> jim: about the idea in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> governor romney has ruled out revenue -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people m
the economy is still slow. as a matter of fact, it's growing more slowly now than when you made that statement. if you believe the same thing, you don't want to raise taxes on people. the reality is, it is not just donald trump you are taxing. it is all those businesses that employ one-quarter of the work fwherz america. these small businesses that are taxed as individuals. you raise taxes and you kill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent businesses said your plan will ket...
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the economy is still growing slow. as a matter of fact, it's growing much more slowly now than when you made the statement. if you believe the same thing, you don't want to raise taxes on people. and the reality is, it's not just wealthy people, not just donald trump are you taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of the workers in america, that are taxes as individuals. you raise taxes and you kill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent businesses say your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. i want to make one more point. >> let him answer the tax thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president. >> well, we've had this discussion before. >> well, in order -- about the idea to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> mr. romney has rule out revenue. >> look, the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balanc
the economy is still growing slow. as a matter of fact, it's growing much more slowly now than when you made the statement. if you believe the same thing, you don't want to raise taxes on people. and the reality is, it's not just wealthy people, not just donald trump are you taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of the workers in america, that are taxes as individuals. you raise taxes and you kill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent businesses say your plan...
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with twenty five percent unemployment there's this huge you know black market economy underground economy that has to get pulled back up as well they've got to be paying taxes so there's got to be you know reformed and whether you want to call it a stereo or not i think someone's got to go through and try and change the system which unfortunately is almost politically impossible right because it's so hard to get the votes to do that so i think we keep this limber lumbering around and you've got the banks at one side demanding their bailouts the people demanding their bailouts and at some point it's all going to give so unless we are going to get it and i can say with you and i and i think it's really interesting is that you know the people on the ground unemployed people see all the banks bailed out the financial sector bailed out politicians protected i mean i know it's very popular but people say now how about me but bail me out and i know i know that's nonsensical on many ways but i can understand how people feel that way. yeah and again i think that's why at least in spain they've got
with twenty five percent unemployment there's this huge you know black market economy underground economy that has to get pulled back up as well they've got to be paying taxes so there's got to be you know reformed and whether you want to call it a stereo or not i think someone's got to go through and try and change the system which unfortunately is almost politically impossible right because it's so hard to get the votes to do that so i think we keep this limber lumbering around and you've got...
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spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're not spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to growth with more money coming in. >> go ahead, mr. president. you are saying, in order to get the job done it's got to be balanced. >> if we are serious, you have to take a balanced approach. by the way, this is not just individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified areas where we can, right away, make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically. they debt deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, that they don't get. now, does anybody think that exx exxon-mobil needs extra money? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? eliminate tax breaks for corporate jets. if you have one, you can probably afford to pay full for it. when it comes to corporate taxes, governor romney said he wants to, in a revenue-neutral way, close loopholes, d
spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're not spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to growth with more money coming in. >> go ahead, mr. president. you are saying, in order to get the job done it's got to be balanced. >> if we are serious, you have to take a balanced approach. by the way, this is not just individual taxes. let's talk...
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we're still on the economy. this is theoretically, now, a second segment still on the economy, and specifically on what to do about the federal deficit. the federal debt. and the question, you each have two minutes on this -- and, governor romney, you go first because the president went first on segment one. romney: yeah. >> moderator: and the question is this, what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country. romney: i'm glad you raised that, and it's a criticallish hsu. i think it's not just a economic issue, i think it's a moral issue. it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on the the next generation, and they're going to be paying the interest and the principal all their lives. and the amount we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. so how do we deal with snit mathematically, there are three ways that you can cut a deficit. one, of cours
we're still on the economy. this is theoretically, now, a second segment still on the economy, and specifically on what to do about the federal deficit. the federal debt. and the question, you each have two minutes on this -- and, governor romney, you go first because the president went first on segment one. romney: yeah. >> moderator: and the question is this, what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country....
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so that you can have an economy work. every free economy has good regulation. at the same time regulation could become excessive. >> is it excessive now? >> in some places. >> like where? >> it can become out of sedate. and what's happened with some of the legislation that's been passed during the president's term, you've seen regulation become excessive, and it's hurt the economy. let me give you an example. dodd-frank was passed, and it includes within it a number of provisions that i think have some unintended consequences that are harmful to the economy. one is it designates a number of banks as too big to fail. and they're effectively guaranteed by the federal government. this is the biggest kiss that's been given to new york banks i've ever seen. this is an enormous boon for them. there have been 122 community and small banks have closed since dodd-frank. so there's one example. here's another. in -- >> you want to repeal dodd-frank? >> i would repeal and replace it. we're not going to get rid of all regulation. you have to have regulation. and there are
so that you can have an economy work. every free economy has good regulation. at the same time regulation could become excessive. >> is it excessive now? >> in some places. >> like where? >> it can become out of sedate. and what's happened with some of the legislation that's been passed during the president's term, you've seen regulation become excessive, and it's hurt the economy. let me give you an example. dodd-frank was passed, and it includes within it a number of...
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well, the economy still growing so. as a matter of fact, going much more slowly now than when he made that statement. so if you believe the same thing can you just don't want to raise taxes on people. the reality is it's not just wealthy people. it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all those businesses that employ one quarter of the workers of america. small businesses taxed as individuals. you have raise taxes any skill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent business said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. i want to kill jobs in this environment. i'll make one more point. >> moderator: let's go to the taxes thing for a moment. mr. president. obama, well, we've had this discussion before. >> moderator: in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. obama: governor romney has ruled out revenue. romney: look, the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, pay more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. the idea of taxing people mor
well, the economy still growing so. as a matter of fact, going much more slowly now than when he made that statement. so if you believe the same thing can you just don't want to raise taxes on people. the reality is it's not just wealthy people. it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all those businesses that employ one quarter of the workers of america. small businesses taxed as individuals. you have raise taxes any skill jobs. that's why the national federation of independent...
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and nobody as far as i know believes that the clinton economy was a bad economy. i mean, i was very proud to have been part of the clinton administration. it was one of the best economies we had. the tax rates did not harm small business. in fact, we had such a good economy because we had fiscal responsibility and at the same time we invested in infrastructure and in education. >> it was a different time. it was also the dot-com boom. >> that came at the end, that's right. but most people who look at those years and exclude those years that just preceding the dot-com boom understand that was a very good economy. do you believe or does anybody -- i mean, i would be very interested in grover norquist if he thought the clinton years represented a bad economy and if they were bad tax rates. >> as much fun it would be to relive the clinton years tonight, mr. secretary, i'd love to get grover -- i want you to expand more on this deduction limit. are you saying it might violate the letter of the no tax pledge but it does not violate the spirit? >> no, no. the president -
and nobody as far as i know believes that the clinton economy was a bad economy. i mean, i was very proud to have been part of the clinton administration. it was one of the best economies we had. the tax rates did not harm small business. in fact, we had such a good economy because we had fiscal responsibility and at the same time we invested in infrastructure and in education. >> it was a different time. it was also the dot-com boom. >> that came at the end, that's right. but most...
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began researcher jerome ruth says the numbers for themselves well it's out of that the state of the economy is absolutely dire and it actually tells us that what these leaders are trying to do through these meetings in these summits is actually aggravating the situation because there are measures that are being imposed the radical structural reforms each of these things is actually aggravating the situation by undermining growth undermining investor confidence in the humanitarian tragedy i mean there is an enormous public outrage right now in spain is there is in greece as there is in portugal and if these people were allowed to decide on their own future they would not through the path of the u.s. forcing them down right now so what you're seeing is a repetition of what we've seen for the past twenty or thirty years what's happened in the developing world is that international lenders through international is the . actually cancel the sovereignty of nations states in order to ensure full repayment of the debt i think everything that they're trying to do ultimately is made by financial mark
began researcher jerome ruth says the numbers for themselves well it's out of that the state of the economy is absolutely dire and it actually tells us that what these leaders are trying to do through these meetings in these summits is actually aggravating the situation because there are measures that are being imposed the radical structural reforms each of these things is actually aggravating the situation by undermining growth undermining investor confidence in the humanitarian tragedy i mean...
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how should be addressed the economy? >> one of the mistakes the romney campaign made in trying to blame the president for the economy when you look at the reality most americans believe george bush shares more responsibility because the president inherited a mess. if that is the perception of voters try to shake that perception when it is not working it is a problem. with respect to the president he has an advantage. doesn't get all the blame. it was a terrible fiscal crisis and terrible unemployment crisis. dennis: what is your bike to obama? >> the president needs to paint the picture and be clear about where we have been and where we are and where we are going. make it clear the future is brighter. dennis: i am sick of the president blaming the other guy for problems he helped create. what do you say? >> my furnace sauce going into this is romney has to state you have been the president for the last four years, not george w. bush. we came out of some real problems in 2008 but the economy was getting better. the admini
how should be addressed the economy? >> one of the mistakes the romney campaign made in trying to blame the president for the economy when you look at the reality most americans believe george bush shares more responsibility because the president inherited a mess. if that is the perception of voters try to shake that perception when it is not working it is a problem. with respect to the president he has an advantage. doesn't get all the blame. it was a terrible fiscal crisis and terrible...